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Previously
on Forgive Me.

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You need to go
and seek some help

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to conquer your demon.

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You can not tell me that
my faith is not enough

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to guide me and to help me.

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Your faith--

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You can do your job.

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You can't just walk
into a confessional

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and tell me that
you're a pedophile

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and then ooh baba boom,
God's just gonna forgive you,

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okay, that's not the
way that it works.

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It does work that way.

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This is my friend Noelle.

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Noelle, this is Granny.

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Hi.

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I want you to see a doctor.

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What's the matter with him?

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Nothing.

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He's not sleeping.

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I got a lot on my mind.

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♪ Ave Maria

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♪ Ave Maria

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♪ Ave Maria

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♪ Ave Maria

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They rezoned the
voting districts again.

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No more minority zones, and
more like pieces of a pie

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from downtown fanning out.

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So we get urban voters

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and country voters
in each district.

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But people were saying
it's going to lead to

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an all white English council

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that doesn't represent anybody.

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Yeah but if some people's
vote counts for more

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than others, that's
not really a democracy.

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So what do you think
about the new council...

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It's not always better and
certainly wasn't in this case

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and there are gonna be
fewer of those prima donnas

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putting on these
ridiculous performances.

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Now politics is just
like show business

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look at Lady Gaga.

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Oh please Lady Gaga owes a
list of citations to Madonna.

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Exactly it's a reference.

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It's practically sampling.

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It's an homage.

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Okay, so what do you
think of designated seats?

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What?

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Do you think there should be

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a designated French
representative?

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I don't know.

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He's really not
a morning person.

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Marilyn Monroe begat
Deborah Harry begat Madonna

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begat Lady Gaga.

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So what else is in the paper?

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Hello.

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I just want to talk
to you about something.

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That's why I'm here.

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Are you going to
ask for forgiveness

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or is this not a confession?

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Forgiveness?

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Forgiveness.

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Not much forgiveness left
in the world today is there?

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Oh well we can look beyond
the world, that's the point.

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Oh a wise ass.

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I get that a lot.

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A little bit less
since I became a priest

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most people seem to
not wanna go there.

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You're Nova Lee's
boy aren't you?

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Her grandson.

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Yeah.

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I haven't seen you since
you were in diapers.

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We all lived in
the same building

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and I used to take
you into my house

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and wash you in
the kitchen sink.

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So you don't impress me at all.

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So you're friends
with my grandmother?

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Yeah I was.

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Until your mother managed
to get everybody evicted.

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And that was what?

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20, 25 years ago.

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Almost.

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Was at your
christening as well.

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God you were a
right little wailer.

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But then you always were.

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Cause you mother was a drunk.

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Your mother drank
while she was pregnant.

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Did you know that?

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Yes.

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Do you still have
those little problems?

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No.

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How about your brother?

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I haven't seen my brother.

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But he struggles yes.

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Well it is actually
a brain injury,

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when a woman drinks alcohol
while she's pregnant.

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I know.

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It was never the
plan to tell you.

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I remember that, your
grandmother's plan.

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Nobody told me.

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My brother's fetal alcohol
syndrome was kind of obvious.

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I mean even to him, it
was obvious to both of us

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to all of our teachers.

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What about you?

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Why did you want
me to know this?

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Well I wanted to tell you
something that I thought

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you should know, that your
family wouldn't tell you.

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Why? To hurt me?

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To trade.

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To trade secrets.

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Well you know something
that I need to know.

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What's that?

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You were at
school with my son.

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He was older than you, he
was probably graduating

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by the time you started of.

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At Holy Mother
or Saint Germane?

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Oh both, both.

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They changed the name
later to Holy Heart of Mary

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then all the kids began to
call it Hearty Hole of Mary.

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Even the adults called it that.

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That was a big mistake.

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Big mistake to send
my son to that school.

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To a catholic school?

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Where did you go to school?

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I went to school in Ireland.

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Obedience via fear.

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God I hated it.

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They teach everything
through fear

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and that's not the way
you teach anything.

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And this is while
all those bastards

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were out there raping children

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and the nuns were beating
the shyte out of everybody

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and the other cowards
were there covering it up.

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Well that lowered our
enthusiasm a little bit.

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I agree.

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But not yours?

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Mine too when it
was first discovered

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when it was reported.

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How do you talk about that?

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I mean amongst yourself
are you with other priests,

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how do you talk about that?

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We don't talk about it.

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You don't talk about the,

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the biggest crisis in catholic
faith and a whole lifetime.

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We don't talk about it in
the same way that you do.

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So what did you, do you
have to ignore the whole world

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in order to remain a priest?

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I mean how do you avoid
the television, the news

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the headlines, the world anger?

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No I think you have
to more fully engage

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with all those things.

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You need to try and understand.

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To try and help people.

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Do you ever feel trapped?

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You're young.

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You still can make choices.

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And you can't?

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Yeah well the capacity
to choose can diminish.

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I mean for example you grow old,

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you can't choose where you live,

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you can't choose
how your limbs move

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or how you want them to move

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can't choose that they
move at all sometimes.

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And then you loose the clarity
and you can't make a choice.

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And then there's
the worst of all

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I mean you can't even remember
if you have made a choice

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or what the choice was.

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I don't want my son
to have any regrets.

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No mother does.

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I want to help him.

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Of course.

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And I want you to
help me to help him.

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I could speak with him.

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Well you already have,
that's why I'm here.

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I spoke with your son.

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Yes he came here to
confessional, I saw him.

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Mrs?

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O'Leary.

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I don't recognize the name

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but if he came into the confess

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not everybody tells
me their name.

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Aye well physically he's
about five 11, six foot tall.

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He's losing his
hair, he's a big lad,

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built like a brick shit house

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but you wouldn't have
seen him around here

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because he's only
come back recently.

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Came back very suddenly.

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Smith.

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When he came in to confess
that's what he called himself.

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Not a great disguise is it?

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I don't think that it was
something that I was supposed

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to believe I think it was
just something to call him.

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What should I call you?

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Mrs. Smith?

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Does it count if you make a
confession under a pseudonym?

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God it must be really bad.

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If he's making a confession
under a fake name.

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You must know it's bad

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or else you wouldn't be here.

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He had some serious
things to say, yes.

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About me?

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Well if he did he was lying.

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He didn't talk
about his mother.

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Or his father?

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He did not talk
about his father.

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What did he talk about?

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I mean what makes a man
who's nearly 40 years of age

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just suddenly, suddenly
make up his mind

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to come back and
live with his mother

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without even packing a bag,

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and leaving all his stuff
and his rented house

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across the harbor?

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I mean he came back far
to quick there's something

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very wrong here.

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I really want you to
tell me what he told you.

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I can't do that.

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Well if I ask him, would
he tell me the truth?

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I mean is it something that
you can tell your mother?

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Is it something that you
can only confess to a priest

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under a fake name?

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This is honestly the
first time that I've ever

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had somebody come
into the confessional

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and ask to hear
someone else's sins.

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That's not how it's done.

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I know that's
not how it's done.

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But I'm here and
I'm really worried.

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And you can stop me
worrying if you tell me

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not to worry about my
son and what he's doing

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and what he's done,
you can do that,

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you can do that just by
telling me what he told you.

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And if you do that I'll go away

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and I won't bother you anymore.

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What did he confess to you?

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The sanctity of this--

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Don't throw the sanctity
of the church at me please.

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And don't go on about the crap

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of breaking the
confessional seal.

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I know the rules

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and I know that I'm
asking you to break them.

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You must be aware
that I can't do that.

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Did he commit a crime?

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I think you love
your son very much--

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Don't patronize me.

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I'm not patronizing,
I am sympathizing.

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I wish that I could
tell you, I really do.

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It's not pleasant carrying
other peoples secrets around.

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But if he has committed a
crime has it occurred to you

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that he might go straight
out and commit it again?

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And who would you
be protecting then?

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Come on.

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Why are you so
arrogant all of you?

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You're all so pompous.

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I mean you all think that
you're just above the law,

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that you don't
even have to go out

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and report a crime that you
know has been committed.

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You're mistaking
the situation.

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How?

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Your son did not
confess a crime.

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Not to me.

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He confessed sins,
very serious sins.

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You're right to be worried.

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So why don't you tell me what
you think your son is up to

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and I will tell you what to
do, I will give you council,

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spiritual council on what
you might do about it.

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Well when he came home to
stay with me a few weeks ago

264
00:14:10,033 --> 00:14:13,413
he said that he was
very, very depressed.

265
00:14:15,791 --> 00:14:19,826
That he was thinking
of killing himself.

266
00:14:19,826 --> 00:14:22,929
So I thought he
might have come here

267
00:14:22,929 --> 00:14:25,413
to talk to you about that.

268
00:14:25,413 --> 00:14:28,344
I'm not going to
discuss what he said.

269
00:14:28,344 --> 00:14:32,413
But that's not the crime that
you came here to uncover.

270
00:14:32,413 --> 00:14:37,240
That is the saddest thing
that a mother can hear.

271
00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,688
That her child is so unhappy.

272
00:14:45,722 --> 00:14:48,895
Well you said he
didn't commit a crime

273
00:14:50,447 --> 00:14:51,999
and I've admitted
that I was wrong

274
00:14:51,999 --> 00:14:53,068
so that's enough for me.

275
00:14:53,068 --> 00:14:55,344
No, no that's not enough.

276
00:14:57,068 --> 00:15:00,240
Your son thinks of
committing a crime.

277
00:15:01,275 --> 00:15:02,275
He thinks?

278
00:15:03,688 --> 00:15:05,895
He thinks about it long
enough and hard enough

279
00:15:05,895 --> 00:15:08,275
that he came here
to confess to it.

280
00:15:08,275 --> 00:15:10,378
But he didn't do it?

281
00:15:10,378 --> 00:15:11,206
Not yet.

282
00:15:14,860 --> 00:15:18,999
Well there were pictures,
on his phone of girls.

283
00:15:21,378 --> 00:15:23,791
Do you have
evidence of a crime?

284
00:15:23,791 --> 00:15:27,860
No they weren't
those kind of pictures.

285
00:15:27,860 --> 00:15:30,378
You can see in the photo
how the person who took it

286
00:15:30,378 --> 00:15:32,206
sees the person in it.

287
00:15:33,999 --> 00:15:35,722
Does that make sense?

288
00:15:38,068 --> 00:15:40,999
God I've nothing to go on.

289
00:15:40,999 --> 00:15:42,240
I have nothing.

290
00:15:43,275 --> 00:15:45,551
Nothing except a suspicion.

291
00:15:48,584 --> 00:15:50,584
You need to talk to him.

292
00:15:50,584 --> 00:15:54,550
You need to get him
professional help.

293
00:15:54,550 --> 00:15:57,378
Go somewhere safe with people
around who can't hear you

294
00:15:57,378 --> 00:16:01,584
unless you want them to and
tell him your intuition.

295
00:16:01,584 --> 00:16:04,275
You need to get him to a doctor.

296
00:16:04,275 --> 00:16:06,240
So it's true.

297
00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:07,516
Ask your son.

298
00:16:11,033 --> 00:16:15,206
When he was small, I think
something happened to him.

299
00:16:17,722 --> 00:16:20,791
And what did you
do about it then?

300
00:16:20,791 --> 00:16:23,309
I sent the man who was
doing it here to you.

301
00:16:23,309 --> 00:16:24,584
Didn't I?

302
00:16:24,584 --> 00:16:26,309
No you didn't send him
to me I wasn't born yet.

303
00:16:26,309 --> 00:16:31,102
Ah stop being petty, I sent
him to the church to a priest.

304
00:16:31,102 --> 00:16:32,757
Now that priest is very old now

305
00:16:32,757 --> 00:16:35,688
but he was about your
age when it happened.

306
00:16:35,688 --> 00:16:36,722
What did the priest do?

307
00:16:36,722 --> 00:16:38,999
Well I don't know do I?

308
00:16:38,999 --> 00:16:41,584
Nobody knows what goes on
in these confession boxes

309
00:16:41,584 --> 00:16:42,929
and that's the bloody trouble.

310
00:16:42,929 --> 00:16:44,413
There are reasons
for that secrecy.

311
00:16:44,413 --> 00:16:47,068
And you use that
secrecy to frighten people

312
00:16:47,068 --> 00:16:49,757
and to keep them under control.

313
00:16:49,757 --> 00:16:51,826
I have no control over you.

314
00:16:51,826 --> 00:16:55,482
No you haven't, you've
no control over me.

315
00:17:02,447 --> 00:17:04,653
Mrs. Smith.

316
00:17:11,619 --> 00:17:12,826
There were other ways for you

317
00:17:12,826 --> 00:17:14,999
to find out what
you wanted to know.

318
00:17:14,999 --> 00:17:17,584
You could have
talked to your son.

319
00:17:17,584 --> 00:17:19,619
And you could have
spoken to his neighbors

320
00:17:19,619 --> 00:17:21,481
where he was living.

321
00:17:21,481 --> 00:17:22,791
I know that there's a
reason that you came

322
00:17:22,791 --> 00:17:24,964
to the church today,
into the confessional.

323
00:17:24,964 --> 00:17:26,413
Yes there was.

324
00:17:26,413 --> 00:17:28,999
If you miss the
feeling of support,

325
00:17:28,999 --> 00:17:30,344
you know if you
miss the council,

326
00:17:30,344 --> 00:17:33,550
if you miss belonging somewhere

327
00:17:33,550 --> 00:17:35,999
I promise you we have
a place for you here.

328
00:17:35,999 --> 00:17:39,929
I will never come
back to your church.

329
00:17:39,929 --> 00:17:41,309
I can help you.

330
00:17:41,309 --> 00:17:43,378
But you didn't help me.

331
00:17:46,446 --> 00:17:48,033
If you change
your mind I will--

332
00:17:48,033 --> 00:17:50,722
Yeah well I won't be
changing my mind okay?

333
00:17:50,722 --> 00:17:52,999
I mean why would
I change my mind

334
00:17:52,999 --> 00:17:55,550
and come back to a dictatorship?

335
00:17:55,550 --> 00:17:58,033
Because that's what
the catholic church is.

336
00:17:58,033 --> 00:17:59,619
You give me your orders

337
00:17:59,619 --> 00:18:01,240
and some bishop down the
road gives you his orders

338
00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,619
and then it goes right to
the top, to the dictator.

339
00:18:04,619 --> 00:18:06,757
I'm not even allowed
to question you.

340
00:18:06,757 --> 00:18:09,206
You've just proved
that, I've just tried.

341
00:18:09,206 --> 00:18:10,446
I just have to sit there

342
00:18:10,446 --> 00:18:12,757
and listen while you examine

343
00:18:12,757 --> 00:18:15,550
and judge every
movement of mine.

344
00:18:15,550 --> 00:18:18,033
I mean I call that an
abusive relationship.

345
00:18:18,033 --> 00:18:19,999
Of course you are
allowed to question thin--

346
00:18:19,999 --> 00:18:21,206
And then of course
there's the money,

347
00:18:21,206 --> 00:18:22,446
yes you're very happy
to take the money

348
00:18:22,446 --> 00:18:26,515
I mean I gave 10% of my
earnings to the church

349
00:18:27,860 --> 00:18:29,584
for half of my life

350
00:18:29,584 --> 00:18:31,619
and my parents did
the same before me

351
00:18:31,619 --> 00:18:33,584
and what did you
do with that money?

352
00:18:33,584 --> 00:18:35,964
You said you were going
to give it to the poor

353
00:18:35,964 --> 00:18:40,068
so we waited and we watched
and the poor stayed poor

354
00:18:40,068 --> 00:18:41,999
and the poor got even poorer

355
00:18:41,999 --> 00:18:45,722
and still in every
single catholic village
around the world

356
00:18:45,722 --> 00:18:47,999
who has the biggest
house in the village?

357
00:18:47,999 --> 00:18:49,171
The priest.

358
00:18:49,171 --> 00:18:52,688
And the pope probably
got 10 new tiaras.

359
00:18:52,688 --> 00:18:54,171
And you wonder why
people are leaving?

360
00:18:54,171 --> 00:18:57,137
That's why they're leaving.

361
00:18:57,137 --> 00:19:00,206
I mean with a fraction of the
wealth of the catholic church

362
00:19:00,206 --> 00:19:04,377
you could have dug a well
in every village in Africa.

363
00:19:06,791 --> 00:19:09,033
But no, you didn't do that.

364
00:19:10,515 --> 00:19:13,068
You kept the money because
you needed the hush money

365
00:19:13,068 --> 00:19:15,343
to pay the settlements
for the poor children

366
00:19:15,343 --> 00:19:17,412
who were raped and abused.

367
00:19:17,412 --> 00:19:19,619
And you take tax exemption
from the government

368
00:19:19,619 --> 00:19:22,860
and then you stand there
and tell me how to vote.

369
00:19:22,860 --> 00:19:24,653
The church is flawed,

370
00:19:24,653 --> 00:19:28,137
like every corner of
society is flawed.

371
00:19:28,137 --> 00:19:29,653
It shouldn't matter that we fail

372
00:19:29,653 --> 00:19:31,860
it matters what we stand for.

373
00:19:31,860 --> 00:19:36,515
But there's no evidence
of what you stand for, none.

374
00:19:36,515 --> 00:19:39,446
I mean your faith would be
thrown out in any court,

375
00:19:39,446 --> 00:19:41,791
in any country in the world.

376
00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,999
And anybody for example, who
hears voices in their heads,

377
00:19:46,999 --> 00:19:48,999
they get put into
a mental hospital

378
00:19:48,999 --> 00:19:51,412
but I mean if you're a
catholic and you hear voices

379
00:19:51,412 --> 00:19:53,791
you turn them into saints.

380
00:19:53,791 --> 00:19:55,999
And then you ask
me to pray to them,

381
00:19:55,999 --> 00:20:00,550
to pray to these
schizophrenics up in the sky.

382
00:20:00,550 --> 00:20:02,964
Oh but it's all
changing now isn't it?

383
00:20:02,964 --> 00:20:05,895
Not the science
but the testifying.

384
00:20:06,999 --> 00:20:08,722
The little kids who
were raped and molested

385
00:20:08,722 --> 00:20:09,999
they're growing up and
they have the courage

386
00:20:09,999 --> 00:20:12,791
to testify against you.

387
00:20:12,791 --> 00:20:14,929
And all the cover ups
and all that rubbish of

388
00:20:14,929 --> 00:20:17,033
pedophile priests
being moved from

389
00:20:17,033 --> 00:20:19,171
one village to the next village.

390
00:20:19,171 --> 00:20:21,206
And then you tell
people who have diseases

391
00:20:21,206 --> 00:20:26,068
or a deformed child, you tell
them that that is God's will

392
00:20:26,068 --> 00:20:27,757
or God's punishment.

393
00:20:30,412 --> 00:20:34,308
Well to me, that really
is, unspeakably, cruel.

394
00:20:39,722 --> 00:20:43,033
It's hard being judged
isn't it, Father?

395
00:21:23,239 --> 00:21:25,446
Oh I'm double
booked on Thursday.

396
00:21:25,446 --> 00:21:26,757
A wake and a funeral.

397
00:21:26,757 --> 00:21:27,757
You want the funeral?

398
00:21:27,757 --> 00:21:28,999
Let the kid take it.

399
00:21:28,999 --> 00:21:30,102
What?

400
00:21:30,102 --> 00:21:31,377
You're so busy?

401
00:21:31,377 --> 00:21:34,239
No I'm not so busy,
he needs to get out.

402
00:21:34,239 --> 00:21:35,412
You take it.

403
00:21:38,343 --> 00:21:42,860
Have any of you ever been
asked to break the seal

404
00:21:42,860 --> 00:21:44,515
of the confessional?

405
00:21:45,515 --> 00:21:47,929
Somebody asked you to do that?

406
00:21:47,929 --> 00:21:49,033
A cop?

407
00:21:49,033 --> 00:21:50,343
Does that happen?

408
00:21:50,343 --> 00:21:51,343
Not often.

409
00:21:52,895 --> 00:21:54,584
No it wasn't a
cop just a person.

410
00:21:54,584 --> 00:21:56,102
And?

411
00:21:56,102 --> 00:21:59,343
Well, I mean I wanted to
tell her that her suspicions

412
00:21:59,343 --> 00:22:00,826
were right you know?

413
00:22:00,826 --> 00:22:03,102
That she should turn her
son in and get him some help

414
00:22:03,102 --> 00:22:05,481
but it's a real situation.

415
00:22:05,481 --> 00:22:07,515
Is that what you told her?

416
00:22:07,515 --> 00:22:08,688
No I didn't tell her anything.

417
00:22:08,688 --> 00:22:10,791
I mean maybe that much.

418
00:22:10,791 --> 00:22:12,964
That's to much.

419
00:22:14,308 --> 00:22:18,343
I'm worried about people
getting hurt, badly.

420
00:22:18,343 --> 00:22:21,377
Look I know it's hard to put
your faith in the sacrament

421
00:22:21,377 --> 00:22:24,377
100% but it is the sacrament.

422
00:22:24,377 --> 00:22:26,205
You can never, ever
tell what someone

423
00:22:26,205 --> 00:22:28,274
confesses during penance.

424
00:22:30,137 --> 00:22:34,308
Does everybody feel that
way, no room to move there?

425
00:22:36,343 --> 00:22:37,895
Okay well what if somebody
comes in and confesses

426
00:22:37,895 --> 00:22:39,999
to me that he's slowly
poisoning his wife?

427
00:22:39,999 --> 00:22:41,688
I mean I'm not supposed
to say anything?

428
00:22:41,688 --> 00:22:43,343
That's a little far fetched.

429
00:22:43,343 --> 00:22:44,308
Okay well what if he confesses

430
00:22:44,308 --> 00:22:47,102
that he's thinking about it?

431
00:22:47,102 --> 00:22:49,653
I actually had that one once.

432
00:22:49,653 --> 00:22:50,999
Well what'd you do?

433
00:22:50,999 --> 00:22:54,722
People confess to
all kinds of thoughts.

434
00:22:54,722 --> 00:22:56,999
I mean maybe not
so much nowadays

435
00:22:56,999 --> 00:23:00,446
but we used to be
pretty hard core

436
00:23:00,446 --> 00:23:03,412
about not thinking bad thoughts.

437
00:23:03,412 --> 00:23:06,136
Yeah there's not
much you can do.

438
00:23:07,515 --> 00:23:10,102
There's a difference
between a crime and a sin.

439
00:23:10,102 --> 00:23:12,102
Not when it comes
to the sacrament.

440
00:23:12,102 --> 00:23:14,860
Crime or sin doesn't
leave the booth.

441
00:23:14,860 --> 00:23:16,999
You warn people
of the consequences

442
00:23:16,999 --> 00:23:18,757
or you convince them
to turn themselves in

443
00:23:18,757 --> 00:23:20,308
if they've already done it.

444
00:23:20,308 --> 00:23:21,999
You're not the police.

445
00:23:21,999 --> 00:23:24,688
God's law isn't about man's law.

446
00:23:29,515 --> 00:23:30,860
Amen.

447
00:23:31,964 --> 00:23:34,308
♪ Cold on the outside

448
00:23:34,308 --> 00:23:37,101
♪ But inside we're God

449
00:23:37,101 --> 00:23:41,274
♪ I don't need horses
to ride into the sun

450
00:23:42,446 --> 00:23:46,584
♪ I just wanna walk
til tomorrow comes

451
00:23:47,999 --> 00:23:51,653
♪ And maybe we'll drink
from the river on the way

452
00:23:53,033 --> 00:23:57,205
♪ And lethe will
give me another day

453
00:23:58,481 --> 00:24:02,653
♪ I don't need horses
to ride into the sun

454
00:24:03,826 --> 00:24:07,895
♪ I just wanna walk
til tomorrow comes

455
00:24:09,308 --> 00:24:13,101
♪ And maybe we'll drink
from the river on the way

456
00:24:14,343 --> 00:24:18,515
♪ And lethe will
give me another day

457
00:24:22,722 --> 00:24:24,033
Next
time on Forgive Me.

458
00:24:35,446 --> 00:24:36,274
Forgive--

459
00:24:36,274 --> 00:24:37,481
How do I know you?

460
00:24:37,481 --> 00:24:38,308
I've seen you before.

461
00:24:38,308 --> 00:24:39,999
Forgive me father.

462
00:24:41,515 --> 00:24:43,999
Saint Sebastian
attends our church.

463
00:24:43,999 --> 00:24:46,964
He's a member of the
congregation that's

464
00:24:46,964 --> 00:24:48,308
that's gotta be
where I saw his face

465
00:24:48,308 --> 00:24:49,791
you know, what he looks like

466
00:24:49,791 --> 00:24:53,239
but I just I don't remember
seeing him before today.

467
00:24:53,239 --> 00:24:55,619
It's like my brain
picked his face

468
00:24:55,619 --> 00:24:57,619
out of the crowd or something.